“feminist: You have nothing against feminism itself, but when did it become a thing that every celebrityhad to statetheir position on whether this word applies to them, like some politician declaring a party? Let’s stick to the issues and quit throwing this label around like ticker tape at a Susan B. Anthony parade.”
I love how tumblr is raging over this. Hopefully now you morons will wake up to the fact that nobody can stand your little "cute” phrases. The reason this list exists is because you can’t even speak your own language properly and end up sounding mentally handicapped. If you need more clarification, Time explains each of these words and phrases better than I every could
How Feminism Destroyed ‘New Atheism’, by Thunderfoot
These groups were easy targets for feminists, the infiltration starts off as a call for allies, then once that’s done it’s purification time.
I defy anyone to watch the tawdry and pathetic atheist conference at the end of this video and still claim with a clear conscience a) That feminism has been a beneficial force within the Atheist movement, and b) That anyone in the west needs feminism at all whatsoever.
I need feminism because I have never seen a female Pikachu plushie, but I see male Pikachu plushies all the time.
what what what
W H A T
How do feminists expect to be taken seriously when they pull stuff like this out of their arse and claim they need feminism because of it? This movement becomes a bigger joke every single day.
That made me laugh. I think I’ll post this everywhere. For the lulz
i don’t think anyone realizes what a GIANT SETBACK this is. these are famous women who are supposed to be strong and supposed to set a good example for all the young girls looking up to them and they’re teaching people that feminism has some sort of negative connotation, when feminism is about gaining equal rights for women - for THEM. these quotes are absolutely disgusting.
“No, I wouldn’t say feminist — that’s too strong. I think when people hear feminist, it’s like, ‘Get out of my way, I don’t need anyone.’ I love that I’m being taken care of and I have a man that’s a leader. I’m not a feminist in that sense.” - Kelly Clarkson (this is bad because she’s making all feminists out to be vicious men-haters and like women NEED a man to take care of them)
“I’m not a feminist. I hail men, I love men, I celebrate American male culture — beer, bars, and muscle cars.” - Lady Gaga (this is bad because she makes it seem like a feminist can’t love men as well as want equal rights for women)
“[I don’t identify as a feminist] because I think it would isolate me. I think it’s important to do positive stuff. It’s more important to be asking than complaining.” - Bjork (this is bad because she’s making feminists out to be people who just complain rather than take any action which is NOT true)
“I am not a feminist, but I do believe in the strength of women.” - Katy Perry (this is bad because it just shows how ignorant some people can be since SO many people don’t understand that feminism MEANS equality although katy perry should be applauded for believing in the strength of women)
“I wouldn’t go so far as to say I am a feminist, that can come off as a negative connotation. But I am a strong female.” - Carrie Underwood (this is bad because she’s literally saying that being a feminist is a negative thing)
“I’m not a feminist, I’m a humanist.” - Madonna (theyre the same thing madonna way to go) side note: sarah jessica parker & demi moore have said the same things
people need to STOP being afraid of the “f” word. feminism IS humanism. feminism IS equality. fucking embrace it and stop being afraid to make some progress. if you’re embracing feminist ideals and support gender equality then i hate to break it to you but you’re a feminist bye
Kelly Clarkson simply believes that it’s too strong. If you look at some feminists, that’s the vibe they give off. She’s being quite realistic, actually.
Lady Gaga loves men and that’s a reason that she’s not a feminist. How many times have you heard “cishet men ew” or similar from feminists on here?
Bjork think it’s isolating. That’s true; because conforming to any label is actually quite isolating. Not just conforming to being a feminist.
Katy Perry just said that she believes in the strength of women, and yet you still criticize her for not being a feminist.
Carrie Underwood is right. Feminists are known for being over-the-top. Take FEMEN, for example. That could indeed come off as a negative connotation.
Madonna is a “humanist”. Not a feminist.
Susan Sarandon indeed thinks that’s what the stereotypical feminist is. Good for her. That’s what a lot of people think the stereotypical feminist is.
These ladies above are strong. They just don’t identify as feminists. Feminism is NOT ‘humanism’, nor is it direct equality.
Look in the feminism tag. There’s quite a lot of misandry in there. Is that gender equality? Is that even equality at all?
Feminism is not ‘making progress’. If you embrace feminist ideals and you support gender equality, you can choose to be a feminist or not. Isn’t that what feminism is about, as well? Choice?
How paradoxical of you.
sorry but are you fucking stupid? the actual literal definition of feminism is gender equality. theres a huge fucking stigma around feminism that we’re all men-hating lesbian misandrists but thats NOT the case. these women dont want to be feminists because of that stigma. theyre EMBARRASSED to call themselves feminists so instead they give it a term that’s friendlier to men: humanist. because god forbid women have something named after them, right? anyway the point is misandry is NOT feminism, its just what ignorant fucks like you that are too lazy to do any actual research on the subject THINK it is, and most feminists are out to educate people on why thats wrong. you cant say youre about equality but then say youre not a feminist. theyre the same thing. youd just be contradicting yourself. third wave feminism is making SO much progress and we’re not even CLOSE to being done. dont fucking come at me and tell me the stereotypical feminist is a strident bitch because i am SO much more than that. good bye
Though feminism may be “gender equality” (it’s advocating for female rights.), the members of the movement really dictate that. If that’s the case, then MRAs are for gender equality as well. Some people in this movement are however men-hating lesbian misandrists. (You do realize that man-hating and misandry are the exact same thing, right?) There’s probably one or two people up there who would be embarrassed to call themselves feminists, but of course, humanist would be better. Humanism is just about on the verge of egalitarianism, which is a movement in which is true equality. The equality of mankind. Fuck that “feminism advocates for human rights!!!!!!!!” shit. Literally egalitarianism is the thing Madonna, for example, is grabbing at. Being an egalitarian, I’m not gonna criticize her and make a fuss over the fact that she doesn’t identify directly over not being an egalitarian, however. You, being a feminist, are completely overreacting.
Misandry and feminism have gone hand in hand. Look at an example of feminism. The feminism tag on tumblr. There is plenty of misandry in there, masked by the feminist facade.
I am about equality. I am COMPLETELY about equality. But I refuse to be a feminist. I’m what you call an anti-feminist. Anti-feminist as in anti-the-movement-that-is-feminism, rather than anti-the-things-that-feminism-stands-for. I personally stand for some of the common feminist beliefs. But the movement? No thank you.
Third wave feminism has literally been so counter-productive. “Feminism is about gender equality. But I still love misandry!” I’d sure hope that feminism was close to being done.
You seem to be off on your definitions in general, so let me clear you up on something.
strident;
loud and harsh; grating.
presenting a point of view, esp. a controversial one, in an excessively and unpleasantly forceful way.
You’re definitely strident with your opinion about feminism and how “gender equality === feminism and you can’t be anything else okay.”
But being a bitch? I wouldn’t label you as such. However, you definitely are strident.
There are feminist misandrists just as there is the Westboro Baptist Church and others alike in Christianity. You can identify as something and still believe differently than another person.
I’m a Christian who believes LGBT rights should be accepted everywhere and without question. I’m also a feminist who believes in gender equality and doesn’t hate men.
There are bad people in every group, organization and belief system who take the values to too far of an extreme. But the fact is you still shouldn’t generalize it to the name itself.
How often do Christians get made fun of nowadays for being bigots? I’m not. But I’m still put in that category because people generalize and don’t realize that the good, balanced people most likely outnumber the bad, borderline psychotic ones.
You’re generalizing. Please stop.
WBC doesn’t represent a significant proportion, by power or population, of Christians, Baptists, or even Christians in Westboro. Pretty much all they can do is troll people into hitting them, and then sue. Those Feminists are running shelters and lobbying for sexist legislation on an institutional level. And the vast and overwhelming majority of feminist efforts don’t even discuss men’s issues.
I want you to tell me, with a straight face, that the majority of feminists don’t call rape and abuse “violence against women” (by men), or (M>F) “gendered violence”. There’s a difference between identifying a general trend in a movement, and saying everyone in said movement follows that trend.
People can’t realize the “good” people outnumber the “bad” if the bad people are much more visible than the good. What are the “good” feminists doing to stop the “bad” ones, or at least to prevent them from using the legit ones as cover? And why is this distinction rarely made when talking about the good feminism has done?
Do you make the same complaints about “generalizing” when other feminists treat all “Patriarchies” as homogenous, regardless of cultural circumstance? When they slap the same one-size-fits-all framework over thousands of diverse cultures all around the world and throughout history? What about when they make generalizations about women? I’d really like to know if you’re being consistent here.
I am leaving tomorrow so I guess now’s as good as ever to lay this all down.
First of all, this is how the current feminist movement looks right now
Sure, these are probably what you’d call “misandrists” just giving a bad name to feminism. You’re right, I’m willing to look past all that and actually look at what feminism is really about, at a more intellectual and institutional level.
Here are some quotes by some prominent feminists:
“I feel that ‘man-hating’ is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them.” — Robin Morgan, Ms. Magazine Editor.
“I claim that rape exists any time sexual intercourse occurs when it has not been initiated by the woman, out of her own genuine affection and desire.” — Robin Morgan
“To call a man an animal is to flatter him; he’s a machine, a walking dildo.” — Valerie Solanas, Authoress of the SCUM Manifesto
“The male is a domestic animal which, if treated with firmness…can be trained to do most things.” — Jilly Cooper, SCUM
“I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig.” — Andrea Dworkin
“Q: People think you are very hostile to men. A: I am.” — Andrea Dworkin
“Men who are unjustly accused of rape can sometimes gain from the experience.” - Catherine Comins
“All men are rapists and that’s all they are” — Marilyn French, Authoress
“The annihilation of a woman’s personality, individuality, will, character, is prerequisite to male sexuality.” — Andrea Dworkin
“Men love death. In everything they make, they hollow out a central place for death, let its rancid smell contaminate every dimension of whatever still survives. Men especially love murder. In art they celebrate it, and in life they commit it. They embrace murder as if life without it would be devoid of passion, meaning, and action, as if murder were solace, stilling their sobs as they mourn the emptiness and alienation of their lives." — Andrea Dworkin
"Men are rapists, batterers, plunderers, killers; these same men are religious prophets, poets, heroes, figures of romance, adventure, accomplishment, figures ennobled by tragedy and defeat. Men have claimed the earth, called it ‘Her’. Men ruin Her. Men have airplanes, guns, bombs, poisonous gases, weapons so perverse and deadly that they defy any authentically human imagination." — Andrea Dworkin, Pornography: Men Possessing Women
"On the Left, on the Right, in the Middle; Authors, statesmen, thieves; so-called humanists and self-declared fascists; the adventurous and the contemplative, in every realm of male expression and action, violence is experienced and articulated as love and freedom." — Andrea Dworkin, Pornography: Men Possessing Women.
"The institution of sexual intercourse is anti-feminist” — Ti-Grace Atkinson
”Feminism is the theory, lesbianism is the practice.” — Ti-Grace Atkinson
"Rape is nothing more or less than a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear” — Susan Brownmiller; Authoress of Against Our Will p.6
“When a woman reaches orgasm with a man she is only collaborating with the patriarchal system, eroticizing her own oppression.” — Sheila Jeffrys
“Politically, I call it rape whenever a woman has sex and feels violated.”— Catherine MacKinnon
“All sex, even consensual sex between a married couple, is an act of violence perpetrated against a woman.” — Catherine MacKinnon
“You grow up with your father holding you down and covering your mouth so another man can make a horrible searing pain between your legs." — Catherine MacKinnon (Prominent legal feminist scholar; University of Michigan, & Yale.)
I guess you ladies on tumblr should probably address that as “problematic” or at least acknowledge the people that walk among you. But whatever. Those are just a few dumbasses and I should probably be looking more at feminism as a whole, collective ideology.
What’s usually one of the first things feminists list as a reason for why they need feminism or why they’re feminists? That women are still making 77¢ for every $1 that men do. Hard to believe that in 2014 we’re still dealing with this problem, right?
We’re not.
In 1963, President Kennedy signed the Equal Pay Act, which stated the following:
I AM delighted today to approve the Equal Pay Act of 1963, which prohibits arbitrary discrimination against women in the payment of wages. This act represents many years of effort by labor, management, and several private organizations unassociated with labor or management, to call attention to the unconscionable practice of paying female employees less wages than male employees for the same job. This measure adds to our laws another structure basic to democracy. It will add protection at the working place to the women, the same rights at the working place in a sense that they have enjoyed at the polling place.
This Act granted working women the same rights as that of the working man, thereby enjoying the right to equal pay.
Next year, Congress passed Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 in which Section 703(a) defines the following employer practices as unlawful:
(1) to fail or refuse to hire or to discharge any individual, or otherwise to discriminate against any individual withrespect to his compensation, terms, conditions, or privileges of employment, because of such individual’s race, color, religion, sex, or national origin; or
(2) to limit, segregate, or classify his employees or applicants for employment in any way which would deprive or tend to deprive any individual of employment opportunities or otherwise adversely affect his status as an employee, because of such individual’s race, color, religion, sex, or national origin.
Essentially banning discrimination of wages based on sex.
Here is a comprehensive look at the wage gap issue, prepared for the government specifically, 95 pages.
The only chairwoman in the FTSE 100 index of biggest British companies, when asked about government efforts to force companies to make at least 25% of board member to be female said: “there’s no real evidence to suggest women being on a board makes the companies any better – what we’re doing here is forcing an experiment.”
This was further supported in the book “Why Men Earn More” by Warren Farrell, Ph.D., examined 25 career/life choices men and women make (hours, commute times, etc.) that lead to men earning more and women having more balanced lives, and that showed how men in surveys prioritize money while women prioritize flexibility, shorter hours, shorter commutes, less physical risk and other factors conducive to their choice to be primary parents, an option men still largely don’t have. That is why never-married childless women outearn their male counterparts, and female corporate directors now outearn their male counterparts.
Farrell also lists dozens of careers, including fields of science, where women outearn men. Women simply have more options than men to be primary parents, and many of them exercise that option rather than work long, stressful hours. That is why 57% of female graduates of Stanford and Harvard left the workforce within 15 years of entry into the workforce.
There is also the myth that women are kept out of certain more lucrative fields by sexism. The truth is that women stay away from math out of their own free choice
Okay, so that’s not really as big of an issue as feminists claimed it was. However, I absolutely agree that if you do find out that you are being discriminated in the workplace due to your gender, you can and should take action to end that.
So what else is a big issue in feminism? Rape culture. Rape is a serious problem, make no mistake. But is this “rape culture” hysteria the answer? Do we honestly live in a culture in which prevalent attitudes and practices normalize, excuse, tolerate, and even condone rape? It’s difficult to quite agree with that idea. While rape unfortunately does happen, it is still seen as one of the top criminal offenses in our country (at least in the US). It’s actually treated like a really serious issue, probably more than any other crime. Compared to joking about rape, how often do we hear people joking about murder? Far more. In fact there’s a big popular post right here on tumblr with details on how to commit murder and get away with it. Does that mean that people seeing those kinds of twisted and sarcastic things are suddenly more inclined to commit murder? I’d hope not. Are those kind of jokes creating a murder culture? Not really.
But maybe because 1 in 4 (or 1 in 5 or 1 in 6, it changes every time I come on tumblr) women will be raped or sexually assaulted in her lifetime. That’s a pretty damn high number. And that’s because it isn’t accurate.
“IF the one-in-four statistic is correct—it is sometimes modified to “one-in-five to one-in-four”—campus rape represents a crime wave of unprecedented proportions. No crime, much less one as serious as rape, has a victimization rate remotely approaching 20 or 25 percent, even over many years. The 2006 violent crime rate in Detroit, one of the most violent cities in America, was 2,400 murders, rapes, robberies, and aggravated assaults per 100,000 inhabitants—a rate of 2.4 percent. The one-in-four statistic would mean that every year, millions of young women graduate who have suffered the most terrifying assault, short of murder, that a woman can experience. Such a crime wave would require nothing less than a state of emergency—Take Back the Night rallies and 24-hour hotlines would hardly be adequate to counter this tsunami of sexual violence. Admissions policies letting in tens of thousands of vicious criminals would require a complete revision, perhaps banning boys entirely.”
This alleged “statistic” was culled from a survey of 3,000 college women in 1982, conducted by Ms. Magazine. These women were asked only three questions:
Have you had sexual intercourse when you didn’t want to because a man gave you alcohol or drugs?
Have you had sexual intercourse when you didn’t want to because a man threatened or used some degree of physical force to make you?
Have you had sexual acts when you didn’t want to because a man threatened to use some degree of physical force to make you?
Oh yeah, moving on to the violence stuff that feminism likes to talk about.
Remember the whole Elliot Rodger incident? Feminists used that tragedy to highlight the supposed rampant misogyny in society.
The crimes that have been committed by sick individuals like Elliot Rodger are horrible, no one is arguing about that. But is it really good to use those isolated incidences to further your own agenda? If so, then these other incidences would also make it clear that there is a huge problem of female perpetrated violence and misandry in society as well:
Wow, almost like violence is not so much a gendered issue and is more of a human issue,. Maybe instead of using tragedies to push an agenda and demonize an entire gender, we should focus on the real problem of violence as a whole.
Feminists also like to talk about how girls are less confident than boys and suffer from lower self-esteem. That’s totally not cool and I agree that we should be doing something about that. But not like this
Really ladies, are you all still in middle school? Why do you have to bring others down just to feel tall? Why can’t we build each other up as equals instead of tearing each other down?
And then you want to go and Ban Bossy™ because that’s gonna solve your problems? What even is the real issue again? Let’s list it out the way feminists did (this was originally in an infographic)
Female kindergarteners (83%) are somewhat more likely than their male counterparts (79%) to exhibit the following positive social behaviors: ease in joining others in play; ability to make and keep friends; and positively interacting with peers.(ChildTrends.org, Child and Youth Indicators Databank: Kindergartners’ Social Interaction Skills, 2006)
In 2005, female fourth- and eighth-graders both scored higher on average in reading than their male counterparts. (National Center for Education Statistics, The Nation’s Report Card: Reading 2005)
A slightly higher percentage of females than males completed high school in 2005 (87% compared with 85%, respectively). In 2005, females were also more likely than males to have completed some college (62% compared with 52%, respectively) and to have received at least a bachelor’s degree (32% compared with 26%, respectively). (ChildTrends.org, Child and Youth Indicators Databank: Educational Attainment, 2006)
In 2004, 9% of females ages 16 to 24 were high school dropouts, compared with 12% of males. Females comprise one-half of the population and make up 43% of the dropouts in this age group. (ChildTrends.org,Child and Youth Indicators Databank: High School Dropout Rates, 2006)
In 2000, sex differences occurred in science course taking but not in mathematics. More females than males completed courses in advanced biology, Advanced Placement (AP) or International Baccalaureate (IB) biology, and chemistry. Males completed physics and AP/IB physics courses at higher rates than females. (National Science Foundation, Science and Engineering Indicators, 2006)
In 2000,women earned more than half of the degrees awarded in psychology (78%), biological/agricultural sciences (59%), and social sciences (55%), and almost half (47%) in mathematics.However, women received 21% of bachelors degrees awarded in engineering, 27% in computer sciences, and 43% in physical sciences. (National Science Foundation, Science and Engineering Indicators 2006)
For girls ages 8-12, aspirations after high school are largely educational and professional: 93% for college education; 76% for a career; 67% for marriage; and, 63% for children. (The Girl Scout Research Institute,Teens Before Their Time (2000))
For girls ages 11-12, 73% reported improving the world around them as their favorite activity (i.e., activities related to the environment or helping others). (The Girl Scout Research Institute, The Ten Emerging Truths: New Directions for Girls 11-17 (2002))
Girls ages 11-17 participate in student government at markedly increasing levels: 5% of girls ages 11-13; 12% of girls ages 13-15; and 20% of girls ages 16-17. (The Girl Scout Research Institute, The Ten Emerging Truths: New Directions for Girls 11-17 (2002))
More young women aged 15 to 25 participate in the following activities than young men: raising money for charity (27% for women vs. 22% for men); regular volunteering for non-political groups (21% vs. 16%); active group membership (22% vs. 18%); membership in political groups (17% vs. 15%); and, participating in a run/walk/ride for charity (20% vs. 15%). (Center for Information and Research on Civic Learning and Engagement, The Civic and Political Health of a Nation, 2006)
In the 2004 election, 55% of females ages 18-24 reported registering to vote, compared with 48% of males the same age. Similarly, 45% of females reported actually voting, compared with 39% of males. (ChildTrends.org, Child and Youth Indicators Databank: Youth Voting, 2006)
From 1990 to 2000, consistent young volunteers were more likely to be female (14 percent) than male (11 percent). They were also more likely to be from higher SES households. (National Center for Education Statistics, Volunteer Service by Young People from High School through Early Adulthood, 2003)
From 1990 to 2000, females (50%) were more likely than males (38%) to volunteer in high school, but no differences were detected between the sexes two years out of high school (38% for males and 39% for females). Male volunteering declined further to 29% by the eighth year after scheduled high school graduation; no change was detected in female volunteering (37%). (National Center for Education Statistics, Volunteer Service by Young People from High School through Early Adulthood, 2003)
As of 2003, female college graduates were more likely than their male counterparts to have volunteered in the past year (50% vs. 43%). Among those who had volunteered, women were more likely than men to have served in educational or religious institutions, while men were more likely than women to have done other volunteer work with children or to have participated in poverty or neighborhood improvement projects. (National Center for Education Statistics, Where Are They Now? A Description of 1992–93 Bachelor’s Degree Recipients 10 Years Later, 2006)
College students follow the national trend in volunteering, with females (33%) volunteering at a higher rate than males (26.8%).Both male and female college students were more likely to volunteer for an educational or youth services organization than any other type of organization: 33.6% of male college students, and 30.2% of female college students volunteered at an educational or youth services organization. With a little over 22% of both male and female college students, religious organizations remained the second most popular place for volunteering among both genders. (Corporation for National and Community Service, College Students Helping America, 2006)
The Gender Equality Paradox proves that this is not socially enforced but rather because the minds of boys and girls are different it is natural for girls and boys to have separate interests and abilities.
You know, feminists claim to be helping men too, but when men feel that their issues are still not being adequately addressed and form their own groups like the MRM (which no, I’m not a part of), feminists dothis to try to shut it down.
What else has feminism done?
Men want protection against false rape allegations. They feel that a man’s life should not be ruined simply on the allegation of a woman who may be a vindictive liar. Currently, a woman can accuse a man of rape for no reason, and the man’s name is splashed in the paper and his life is ruined. So, they fought for laws granting men anonymity until charged with the crime of rape—not convicted, just charged. Feminists fought against this, causing it to fail. Also see here, the London Feminist Network campaigning to defeat the proposal.
Men want an end to the justice system favoring women simply because they are women, and giving men harsher sentences simply because they are men. Feminists fought against this, arguing that no woman should be sent to jail, even women who had murdered multiple people.
Men want equal treatment when victims of domestic violence, and to not be arrested for the crime of “being male” under primary aggressor policies.Feminists fought against this by trying to suppress evidence showing that half of domestic violence is done by women, by threatening the researchers with bomb threats, death threats, etc. Modern, younger feminists are doing it as well.
Men want female rapists to be arrested, charged, and convicted with rape. In Western countries, women are rarely punished when raping men, due to the biased legal system. In some countries, women cannot be punished when raping men, since rape is defined as a male-perpetrated crime. Feminists fought against this in India, arguing that “there is a physicality [in] rape” and that it would make things “more complicated for judges.” Feminists fought against this in Israel, claiming that changing the law would result in men filing false rape claims.
Men don’t want to be thrown in jail because they lost their jobs and temporarily cannot pay child support. Feminists fought against this, trying to lower the amount to $5000 before a man is guilty of a felony for not paying child support. If a man loses a decent-paying job, he will now be a felon, go to jail, lose his right to vote, AND be unable to find future jobs—if he cannot regain an equal-paying job within a few months.
In 2008, a law was passed in England and Wales that allowed long-term domestic violence victims who killed their abuser to be charged with the lesser charge of manslaughter, but this only applies to women.
In California and Montana, a woman can name any man she likes as the father, he gets a letter in the mail, if he does not prove he isn’t the father within 30 days he is now the father and must pay. He cannot contest it. And DNA tests to prove paternity are not considered proof by the courts.
Women who falsely accuse a man of rape, who would be sent to prison for 10+ years if convicted, only gets fined or a slap on the wrist.
Then there are studies that show women who fail to pay child support are incarcerated only 1/8th as often as men with similar violations.
And here’s my final beef with feminism: If you have to spread lies to support your cause, how much of a cause could you possibly have to begin with? And what are you saying about femininity itself when you want so badly for us to live in constant fear? (#YesAllWomen)
How are you supposed to be encouraging women to be strong if all you let us aspire to is to be victims?
How are you encouraging women to be independent if you try to make us believe that we can’t take care of ourselves?
How are you helping women at all if you have to lie to us?
Feminism is operating under too many problematic ideas, lies, and cover ups. Third wave feminism is ridiculous. It’s gotten too extreme and completely misses the point of equality now. I believe in equality, and for that reason I can no longer get behind an ideological movement like feminism. There’s my reasons. Goodbye everybody. Have a marvelous rest of your lives.
So last year in Invincible #110, Markus Grayson was raped. No alluding scenes or suggestive themes, bona fide raped.
I have seen more outrage over a cover that paid homage to a book that didn’t contain rape than this. Like he even says he doesn’t want it, fights her and is told to man up.
This is worse than Talia drugging and raping Batman.
But yeah male superheroes are always in total control
Look at this. Look at this again.
Hey, look
Actual rape scene that femtards fucking ignored outright because the victim was male
Go fuckin’ figure
Yeah can we talk about Batman’s rape too? Cuz mofos out here actin like Batman hasn’t ever been in a position of weakness or vulnerability.
If you honestly think male heroes don’t get messed up crap thrown at them too in comics well then good day to you sir/madam cuz your ass don’t read em.
Sure, lets talk about that. They weren’t even subtle about it. Batman was drugged and forced to have sex with Talia.
Absolute undeniable proof that feminists hate men.
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i don’t think anyone realizes what a GIANT SETBACK this is. these are famous women who are supposed to be strong and supposed to set a good example for all the young girls looking up to them and they’re teaching people that feminism has some sort of negative connotation, when feminism is about gaining equal rights for women - for THEM. these quotes are absolutely disgusting.
“No, I wouldn’t say feminist — that’s too strong. I think when people hear feminist, it’s like, ‘Get out of my way, I don’t need anyone.’ I love that I’m being taken care of and I have a man that’s a leader. I’m not a feminist in that sense.” - Kelly Clarkson (this is bad because she’s making all feminists out to be vicious men-haters and like women NEED a man to take care of them)
“I’m not a feminist. I hail men, I love men, I celebrate American male culture — beer, bars, and muscle cars.” - Lady Gaga (this is bad because she makes it seem like a feminist can’t love men as well as want equal rights for women)
“[I don’t identify as a feminist] because I think it would isolate me. I think it’s important to do positive stuff. It’s more important to be asking than complaining.” - Bjork (this is bad because she’s making feminists out to be people who just complain rather than take any action which is NOT true)
“I am not a feminist, but I do believe in the strength of women.” - Katy Perry (this is bad because it just shows how ignorant some people can be since SO many people don’t understand that feminism MEANS equality although katy perry should be applauded for believing in the strength of women)
“I wouldn’t go so far as to say I am a feminist, that can come off as a negative connotation. But I am a strong female.” - Carrie Underwood (this is bad because she’s literally saying that being a feminist is a negative thing)
“I’m not a feminist, I’m a humanist.” - Madonna (theyre the same thing madonna way to go) side note: sarah jessica parker & demi moore have said the same things
“I think of myself as a humanist because I think it’s less alienating to people who think of feminism as being a load of strident bitches.” - Susan Sarandon (so feminists are strident bitches now because we want equal rights?)
people need to STOP being afraid of the “f” word. feminism IS humanism. feminism IS equality. fucking embrace it and stop being afraid to make some progress. if you’re embracing feminist ideals and support gender equality then i hate to break it to you but you’re a feminist bye
Kelly Clarkson simply believes that it’s too strong. If you look at some feminists, that’s the vibe they give off. She’s being quite realistic, actually.
Lady Gaga loves men and that’s a reason that she’s not a feminist. How many times have you heard “cishet men ew” or similar from feminists on here?
Bjork think it’s isolating. That’s true; because conforming to any label is actually quite isolating. Not just conforming to being a feminist.
Katy Perry just said that she believes in the strength of women, and yet you still criticize her for not being a feminist.
Carrie Underwood is right. Feminists are known for being over-the-top. Take FEMEN, for example. That could indeed come off as a negative connotation.
Madonna is a “humanist”. Not a feminist.
Susan Sarandon indeed thinks that’s what the stereotypical feminist is. Good for her. That’s what a lot of people think the stereotypical feminist is.
These ladies above are strong. They just don’t identify as feminists. Feminism is NOT ‘humanism’, nor is it direct equality.
Look in the feminism tag. There’s quite a lot of misandry in there. Is that gender equality? Is that even equality at all?
Feminism is not ‘making progress’. If you embrace feminist ideals and you support gender equality, you can choose to be a feminist or not. Isn’t that what feminism is about, as well? Choice?
How paradoxical of you.
sorry but are you fucking stupid? the actual literal definition of feminism is gender equality. theres a huge fucking stigma around feminism that we’re all men-hating lesbian misandrists but thats NOT the case. these women dont want to be feminists because of that stigma. theyre EMBARRASSED to call themselves feminists so instead they give it a term that’s friendlier to men: humanist. because god forbid women have something named after them, right? anyway the point is misandry is NOT feminism, its just what ignorant fucks like you that are too lazy to do any actual research on the subject THINK it is, and most feminists are out to educate people on why thats wrong. you cant say youre about equality but then say youre not a feminist. theyre the same thing. youd just be contradicting yourself. third wave feminism is making SO much progress and we’re not even CLOSE to being done. dont fucking come at me and tell me the stereotypical feminist is a strident bitch because i am SO much more than that. good bye
Though feminism may be “gender equality” (it’s advocating for female rights.), the members of the movement really dictate that. If that’s the case, then MRAs are for gender equality as well. Some people in this movement are however men-hating lesbian misandrists. (You do realize that man-hating and misandry are the exact same thing, right?) There’s probably one or two people up there who would be embarrassed to call themselves feminists, but of course, humanist would be better. Humanism is just about on the verge of egalitarianism, which is a movement in which is true equality. The equality of mankind. Fuck that “feminism advocates for human rights!!!!!!!!” shit. Literally egalitarianism is the thing Madonna, for example, is grabbing at. Being an egalitarian, I’m not gonna criticize her and make a fuss over the fact that she doesn’t identify directly over not being an egalitarian, however. You, being a feminist, are completely overreacting.
Misandry and feminism have gone hand in hand. Look at an example of feminism. The feminism tag on tumblr. There is plenty of misandry in there, masked by the feminist facade.
I am about equality. I am COMPLETELY about equality. But I refuse to be a feminist. I’m what you call an anti-feminist. Anti-feminist as in anti-the-movement-that-is-feminism, rather than anti-the-things-that-feminism-stands-for. I personally stand for some of the common feminist beliefs. But the movement? No thank you.
Third wave feminism has literally been so counter-productive. “Feminism is about gender equality. But I still love misandry!” I’d sure hope that feminism was close to being done.
You seem to be off on your definitions in general, so let me clear you up on something.
strident;
loud and harsh; grating.
presenting a point of view, esp. a controversial one, in an excessively and unpleasantly forceful way.
You’re definitely strident with your opinion about feminism and how “gender equality === feminism and you can’t be anything else okay.”
But being a bitch? I wouldn’t label you as such. However, you definitely are strident.
There are feminist misandrists just as there is the Westboro Baptist Church and others alike in Christianity. You can identify as something and still believe differently than another person.
I’m a Christian who believes LGBT rights should be accepted everywhere and without question. I’m also a feminist who believes in gender equality and doesn’t hate men.
There are bad people in every group, organization and belief system who take the values to too far of an extreme. But the fact is you still shouldn’t generalize it to the name itself.
How often do Christians get made fun of nowadays for being bigots? I’m not. But I’m still put in that category because people generalize and don’t realize that the good, balanced people most likely outnumber the bad, borderline psychotic ones.
You’re generalizing. Please stop.
WBC doesn’t represent a significant proportion, by power or population, of Christians, Baptists, or even Christians in Westboro. Pretty much all they can do is troll people into hitting them, and then sue. Those Feminists are running shelters and lobbying for sexist legislation on an institutional level. And the vast and overwhelming majority of feminist efforts don’t even discuss men’s issues.
I want you to tell me, with a straight face, that the majority of feminists don’t call rape and abuse “violence against women” (by men), or (M>F) “gendered violence”. There’s a difference between identifying a general trend in a movement, and saying everyone in said movement follows that trend.
People can’t realize the “good” people outnumber the “bad” if the bad people are much more visible than the good. What are the “good” feminists doing to stop the “bad” ones, or at least to prevent them from using the legit ones as cover? And why is this distinction rarely made when talking about the good feminism has done?
Do you make the same complaints about “generalizing” when other feminists treat all “Patriarchies” as homogenous, regardless of cultural circumstance? When they slap the same one-size-fits-all framework over thousands of diverse cultures all around the world and throughout history? What about when they make generalizations about women? I’d really like to know if you’re being consistent here.
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